Why 407 Mail Trucks Have Caught Fire Since 2014

2021-ж., 1-фев.
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The Grumman LLV has been the US Postal Service's humble steed for nearly 40 years- but there's a problem. America's mail truck is fraught with problems: from low gas mileage, horrible comfort, and the fact that it CATCHES ON FIRE!! So why hasn't America found a worthy replacement? Watch and find out.
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  • Big shout out to my boy Taylor in Tacoma, the coolest Postman I know 👊

    Donut MediaDonut MediaАй мурун
    • nhra didn't outlaw it but it doesn't have the safety equipment required for the times it runs. (the demon) lots of cars suffer this issue because everyone blows their wad on the car and not safety equipment that is CLEARLY outlined in their rules.

      Dani SyxDani Syx14 күн мурун
    • @Bill Kerr unfortunately my Sister-In-Law drives one of these daily on her route. thankfully her garage took the time to mod the fleet. Just 2.5 years and she can hang-up her mail bag as it were.

      DitzyDooDitzyDoo16 күн мурун
    • I remember when this "new" long life postal truck was in the news. If you think back to US vehicle build quality in the early '80s it is easy to see why commentaries at the time were highly skeptical that a 20 year lifespan was realistic. As it turned out these trucks did last 20 years. Grumman was the right contractor for the job because at that time they were manufacturing durable delivery vans similar to the UPS/Fedex trucks we see today. For all I know they still do. Now let's jump ahead to 2009 when the trucks were scheduled to be replaced. Can you think of anything else that was going on back then? It has a name. I'll give you a minute. (HINT: it rhymes with "the great recession") So anyway the things needed to be replaced or at least seriously maintained but the part of government that writes checks had decided they no longer want to spend money on the post office and even actively worked to undermine postal service, as crazy as that sounds. Maybe it can finally get handled now and the current government can buy some new trucks, hopefully electric. And Ford has announced there will be an electric version of the transit van.

      Bill KerrBill Kerr16 күн мурун
    • The three rural delivery LLC here in Creston, California are contracted Nissans and Fords Transits.

      DitzyDooDitzyDoo17 күн мурун
    • Do up to speed on Ram 1500 please

      Volvo 740 RamVolvo 740 Ram21 күн мурун
  • The LLVs are about to be replaced. Some of the concepts that were proposed as replacements were very interesting. I particularly liked the Workhorse one.

    shatteryibshatteryib7 саат мурун
  • Says fighter jets, shows Grumman A-6 Intruder. Though, in their defense, the Intruder was armed and capable of fighting back enemies if needed to.

    That Bad BLU SpyThat Bad BLU Spy11 саат мурун
  • In 2000-2001 there was a Ford Postal Explorer that looked like the current LLV's. Whatever happened to those? I've driven them, they were fast when empty.

    John CopelloJohn Copello13 саат мурун
  • Has it really been that long? I remember when they used the right hand drive Jeeps... but these things are obviously VERY well made, based on the fact that they are still in service. Things that can be repaired and rebuilt should NOT be replaced for the heck of it...

    realvanmanrealvanmanКүн мурун
  • Where I live the post office just uses modern Jeeps, I don't know why but they do. Just basic yet modern Jeeps that are right hand drive.

    Cameron PuttCameron PuttКүн мурун
  • Canada Post still uses these (among other vehicles) and apparently some of the postal employees have complained of how clapped out they are, and some have even bought their own CO detectors to monitor exhaust gasses in the cabin www.cbc.ca/news/canada/ottawa/canada-post-carbon-monoxide-delivery-trucks-1.4194940

    Sean BSean B2 күн мурун
  • Given the amount of repair data available for the LLV they should be able to make the next one nearly indestructible.

    tellucastellucas2 күн мурун
  • The next generation mail truck is A COMPAQ FUQQING PRESARIO WITH EMAIL FUNCTIONALITY. But demokkkrats cracked the mail service to corrupt elections, boomer politicians dun wanna figger outz dem cumpooters.

    ZzTop's Beard LiceZzTop's Beard Lice2 күн мурун
  • Postal trucks. Brought to you by the government many morons want directing your healthcare. 🙄

    ZzTop's Beard LiceZzTop's Beard Lice2 күн мурун
  • They just announced recently the new mail trucks! Won't be rolling out until 2025 though.

    Mark ReddingtonMark Reddington2 күн мурун
  • And now they said Oshkosh won it, though whether ford is still involved is in question

    Jason's StormJason's Storm3 күн мурун
  • He keeps mentioning the 9 MPG that the LLV gets. My LLV was replaced with a brand new Mercedes Metris and I am still getting only 10 MPG. Its because of all the idling and accelerating we do while not really driving a lot of miles. Stopping and starting the engine 50 times a day, idling at 500 mailboxes while we put mail in the box and accelerating just to stop 100 feet away really burns the gas up.

    MikeS91712MikeS917124 күн мурун
  • That little hateful LLV is the poster child for government achievement.

    Tom bigTom big4 күн мурун
  • Let me tell you something: I don't care what it costs. The Grumman LLV isn't going anywhere. Ever.

    BR HarrisBR Harris4 күн мурун
  • 7:40 “ that’s cute” me in Italy with 1.4€ for liter (~$6 a gallon)

    JonFarahJonFarah4 күн мурун
  • They have has a super long service life.

    Mike CarrMike Carr5 күн мурун
  • I'm a mail carrier and have driven these for about 24 years now, on rural routes. These trucks are so OLD now - mine was built in 1989 - and I'm on my fifth engine in 10 years. I've had gas leaks on top of the engine from rotted gas lines. The USPS is now so underfunded, that they don't really do any preventative maintenance, but just wait for breakdowns. I've had 4 breakdowns in 2 weeks. The other carrier is now having trouble getting up hills because his transmission is going - but they won't do anything until it breaks down. Very old vehicles combined with lack of maintenance equals - all sorts of problems, including fires. They should have been replaced 10 years ago. We also got a notice that they have selected a replacement for the LLV - and it will be built over the next 15 years.

    tvbop Ctvbop C5 күн мурун
  • Kia Soul would have high maintenance. If someone gave me one, I'd have to sell my soul.

    jonndajonnda5 күн мурун
  • Sorry, im a ford guy.

    Fresh Dave101Fresh Dave1015 күн мурун
  • You kept mixing he Grumman LLVs with the FFVs that are based on the Ford Chasis, and are newer. at 5:38 when you show the body of the "Grumman" that's actually an FFV, which was not made by Grumman, and was their first attempt at replacing the LLVs. The FFVs sucked more than the LLVs though, and in the video of a mail truck on fire at 8:20, that's actually an FFV as well, you can tell cause the roof is rounder and the back is not slanted like on the LLV. I'm not saying the LLVs don't catch on fire, cause they do, but the FFVs catch on fire almost as much, and they are newer, so about half of that number of trucks on fire are also FFVs.

    Yhowbyjytub310Yhowbyjytub3105 күн мурун
  • Well now I know where to get a iron duke for my derby cars. Always wanted to try one 😂😂

    Isaac FultonIsaac Fulton6 күн мурун
  • Lmao and our rural mail route has an old buick lesabre as mail vehicle, the mail guy just sits in the passenger seat and steers from there too

    Kaden WattKaden Watt6 күн мурун
  • Because they were carrying votes lol

    Kenny SchmurdaKenny Schmurda6 күн мурун
  • @11:18 for BOOOOOBS

    ChanceyChancey6 күн мурун
  • Those classic old ones are so ugly, sound so awful, and are fucking junk in today’s world and USPS is just too cheap to upgrade.

    Lisa PicanoLisa Picano6 күн мурун
  • Because government sucks at everything

    Pat JohnPat John6 күн мурун
  • The Fiero GT model had the L44 engine.

    RedFathomRedFathom6 күн мурун
  • I only got 2 takeaways from this video. 1. They are going to replace the LLV soon so the market will be flooded with them. 2. They are built on a s10 blazer frame so they can be lifted with relative ease.

    Austin MankeAustin Manke6 күн мурун
  • why not tesla model y?

    nuno rodriguesnuno rodrigues7 күн мурун
  • I don't know the name of the model but I have scene a Mercedes Benz van that looks a little bigger than a typical mini van being used

    Jerry DellefemineJerry Dellefemine7 күн мурун
  • I’m sorry but the jeep mail truck is so fucking cool as a jeep fan boy I want one

    Andrew MottaAndrew Motta7 күн мурун
  • It’s because they like the design. It’s small, I feel nobody gets it right for usps anymore. They don’t want a van mail truck like the Metris. They went something like this. A compact box truck!

    An2nio Transit ProductionsAn2nio Transit Productions7 күн мурун
    • Ford made a variant of the LLV in the 90’s I feel they got that one right!

      An2nio Transit ProductionsAn2nio Transit Productions7 күн мурун
  • Tesla should be the model, USPS could help build the infrastructure for EVs and the Teslas vehicles could get way cheaper. Then more people could buy Tesla vehicles, and our environment will be better off

    dusty bowmandusty bowman7 күн мурун
  • such a waste of time ...! Germany DHL/Post Produce their own E-Car's...! End it is a Success! kgfun.info/losk/video/lnytgdmPepSZy5o

    Eyüp YörükEyüp Yörük7 күн мурун
  • I truly hope we don’t get a transit because when you look out the window for your package you ordered 2 months ago is finally supposed to arrive soon. Do you really wanna strain your eyes to decipher which of the 50 Ford transits are the mail truck. Something that was cool about the current truck is how unique it is. Hopefully they don’t chose fords option.

    Bacon_ Slayer5Bacon_ Slayer57 күн мурун
  • ... and then after posting this video the contract was finally announced that Oskosh won. Thus spuring a controversy since the Biden administration wants to go electric, Oskosh is not but Workhorse is.

    Dave FDave F7 күн мурун
  • When a USPS truck catches fire it might be the first time in years it put out any heat since the heaters in most of them don’t work.

    BoydBoyd7 күн мурун
  • "so old it's hard to find mechanics to work on them" HOW? MECHANICS LOVE OLDASS CARS.

    Notable DiscomfortNotable Discomfort7 күн мурун
  • Why not do what cops do? Have a list of acceptable models and let local offices make decisions.

    Notable DiscomfortNotable Discomfort7 күн мурун
  • 12:29 It worries me that they have to explicitly point that out

    AxeARAxeAR7 күн мурун
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    kingdom musickingdom music8 күн мурун
    • You good bro?

      No nameNo name8 күн мурун
  • My hometown got new mail trucks last year

    Josh LepleyJosh Lepley8 күн мурун
  • Why on earth do they need to design an entirely new van? Why not just buy a standard van that sells by the million, then retrofit whatever you need in it? Thats worked perfectly well for the Royal Mail for the last 50 years with the Ford Transit. GO FOR THE TRANSIT OPTION!

    Dan The ManDan The Man8 күн мурун
  • That mail truck you put in a 4 piston diesel engine and you have a nice camper to travel!

    Anthony EverettAnthony Everett8 күн мурун
  • "Drive 960 miles over potholes at 10-14 mph" sounds like the first thing you have to do after reaching the gates of hell 😂

    ClayClay8 күн мурун
  • Id go so fast evry mail box

    pablo is litpablo is lit8 күн мурун
  • pěkné video, chci být tvými přáteli, ok?

    duongtangxa xoiduongtangxa xoi8 күн мурун
  • Ok, this is bothering me. Is there a chicken around cooing and shit? What's that background noise?

    AlexTheStampedeAlexTheStampede8 күн мурун
  • "most recognizable vehicles on the road" bruh i didn't know those things existed or looked like that then again im in australia lolol

    EnekyoEnekyo8 күн мурун

    LeoLeo8 күн мурун
  • Good timing with this video. New models were just announced.

    Remi RamosRemi Ramos9 күн мурун
  • He has no clue.

    Buff BarnabyBuff Barnaby9 күн мурун
  • Kids his age get so many things wrong in these videos.

    Buff BarnabyBuff Barnaby9 күн мурун
  • Fiero GT not have Iron Duke , I had a new one , it was a port-injected 2.8L V-6

    Buff BarnabyBuff Barnaby9 күн мурун
  • I remember the Jeep DJ mail vehicles from when I was little.

    Matthew CoxMatthew Cox9 күн мурун
  • Poop in a group

    ashkechum101ashkechum1019 күн мурун
  • God I hope they don’t swap a unique and iconic design for an even fuglier transit

    A SA S9 күн мурун
    • @_ sleeping.. But just looked it up and I love it - cheers for the heads up

      A SA S9 күн мурун
    • they announced the new usps truck a few days ago, it isn’t the transit van it looks like the second truck but with more traditional front lights where have u been man lol

      __9 күн мурун
  • Everyone knows that Goverment ( U.S. & Postal Govt. ) LOVE to waste our tax money . Hence the raise in postage stamps prices and the like.

    Sheryl CourtneySheryl Courtney9 күн мурун
  • Let me guess ? These trucks came from China ?! LOL !

    Sheryl CourtneySheryl Courtney9 күн мурун
  • Just fit them with an electric powertrain if they REALLY don't want to replace them

    Sandy BoleYTSandy BoleYT9 күн мурун
  • My workhorse stock plummeted 😢

    BasediNVegasBasediNVegas9 күн мурун
  • maybe theyd get better mileage if theywerent loaded down with heaps of shitty, disgusting junk mail

    Wolfgang Von BraunWolfgang Von Braun9 күн мурун
  • What angers me is that the USPS is prioitizing fuel economy and alternative fuels in the replacement vehicles however diesel seems to have been completely ignored? If they want efficiency and long service life, diesel absolutely still reigns supreme!

    dregeniusdregenius9 күн мурун
  • Unsung hero’s of the roads. Trust me, they get a lot of our important stuff and supplies around as well! Rain, sleet, shine or snow. They are always out delivering.

    Christopher Chronister JrChristopher Chronister Jr9 күн мурун
  • most of these postal trucks have diesel engines...

    C MottC Mott10 күн мурун
  • F's in the chat for Doug

    Kyle WitterKyle Witter10 күн мурун
  • My area code is 407 and obviously the same mail trucks so everytime I pass this video on recommended I’m like wtf is going on with the mail trucks by me...

    Matthew ZepessMatthew Zepess10 күн мурун
  • I like 1959 Plymouth

    White Star GamingWhite Star Gaming10 күн мурун
  • The offset wheels on the front don't make for good snow driving. Since the front tires don't line up with the rear tires, the vehicle has to forge four tire tracks through the snow instead of two, and it's rear wheel drive.

    Beezer Twelve WashingbeardBeezer Twelve Washingbeard10 күн мурун
  • Karsan won!

    Thomas JearsonThomas Jearson10 күн мурун
    • Oskosh apparently..my bad. Quite an apearance change...

      Thomas JearsonThomas Jearson10 күн мурун
  • 7:37 2.16 usd$ per gallon is expensive? In Norway 1 gallon of gasoline would often cost about 8 usd $ and that's no crazy covid pricing or something like that. It is the normal price here so that's why many people here in Europe don't drive cars with massive engines like they do in the US.

    Pc GameplayPc Gameplay10 күн мурун
  • Ahh, the old Pontiac Iron Duke. The dual internal/external combustion ability was a feature, not a bug! In all seriousness though, it was a very reliable (if also very unrefined) engine and the fires were specific to only the Fiero and the LLV themselves as far as I'm aware and the fires are not specifically the fault of the engine. Tons of S10s and other random small GMS had these without issue.

    Marcus CookMarcus Cook10 күн мурун
  • Now I see mostly chrysler mini-vans doing mail in chicago.

    Kimani BrooksKimani Brooks10 күн мурун
    • I'm in the Philly burbs and they've had sprinter vans for a few years.

      Andy DavisAndy Davis10 күн мурун
  • let me help you out here, That 9MPG is a result of stop and go with a lot of engine shutdown and startup and idle time. You can NOT expect any vehicle to get their listed estimated mileage under those conditions, and I doubt that electric hybrids will be anything but more expensive and more problematic. As for the Iron Duke, it's not a bad engine and you aren't being reasonable in your critique, you're blaming the engine when the issue is the placement of accessories is the cause. The USPS is more the issue than the LLV/ The LLV is the optimum size, Bigger is NOT the solution. And EVERYTHING I have heard from people who drive and repair the LLV is that it's a good design and very fixable. I think you're just making stuff up

    Scott EScott E10 күн мурун
  • Oshkosh has one it now but the postal van looks like the first one with a tall windscreen and a low bonnet/hood

    Darcey McFarlaneDarcey McFarlane10 күн мурун
  • The new LLV is a mercedes

    Twizted PsykoTwizted Psyko10 күн мурун
  • The usps have there own mechanics and shops very rarely do they send there llv's to an outside mechanics shop

    Twizted PsykoTwizted Psyko10 күн мурун
  • Bro just LS swap the LLV🤣

    Alex ChavezAlex Chavez10 күн мурун
  • waiting for the update now

    Mateen SaleemMateen Saleem11 күн мурун
  • I would expect the Oshkosh/ Ford transit van to win solely based on it already has infrastructure in place to make the basic parts of it so that would get them on the road faster.

    Wayne BakkenWayne Bakken11 күн мурун
  • Who's here after they have new trucks

    ianian11 күн мурун
  • The government is trying its best to prove to its citizens that it’s inefficient.

    Greg 612ABGreg 612AB11 күн мурун
  • I want a Grumman llv, load its cargo space with a 1200hp v8, and make a drag llv

    Justin FrenchJustin French11 күн мурун
  • This show is like the Buzzfeed of car talk. Is this a show about cars for children?

    Chris BensonChris Benson11 күн мурун
  • How many of those exactly 666 dislikes do you think came from Satan himself?

    CorvusCorvus11 күн мурун
  • 9 mpg? Better than that Dodge Deamon.

    rickpaulosrickpaulos11 күн мурун
  • You called it, Oshkosh got the contract. arstechnica.com/cars/2021/02/usps-picks-a-new-mail-truck-and-no-they-wont-all-be-electric/

    Terry EckTerry Eck11 күн мурун
  • Anyone here after the new unveiling?

    William TaylorWilliam Taylor11 күн мурун
  • It was announced today that Oshkosh got the contract but ford is not part of the collab, no word why ford is out of the deal

    jsorgi44215jsorgi4421511 күн мурун
    • Ford still may be part of it. When Oshkosh was asked about whether or not Ford will have anything to do with their mail truck, they refuse to comment.

      Dillon HDillon H11 күн мурун
  • Gas is $2.16 over there? It’s like $2.79 here in NJ.

    JoeyTheFoxxoJoeyTheFoxxo11 күн мурун
  • Man James it's just different 😅

    ΛDRINSONΛDRINSON11 күн мурун
  • We can't use already produced rhd vans from 3rd world countries like: Japan, Australia, or England. Oshkosh got the contract btw. But gets 10 years to produce 50k vans.

    BuildingwithTreesBuildingwithTrees11 күн мурун
  • Time for an update and maybe a B2B one day on the Oshkosh mail truck!

    Peter RabbitPeter Rabbit11 күн мурун
  • Naild the prediction that Oshkosh and Ford would win the contract, I was rooting for the underdog Workhorse...

    Mark NelsonMark Nelson11 күн мурун
    • Ford isn't part of the Oshkosh deal

      jsorgi44215jsorgi4421511 күн мурун
  • February 2021 Update: Karsan & Morgan Olson won the contract. The only real noticable change in the design is that it's all white now instead of white and black.

    PA551ONPA551ON11 күн мурун
  • Oshkosh just got awarded the contract www.prnewswire.com/news-releases/us-postal-service-awards-contract-to-launch-multi-billion-dollar-modernization-of-postal-delivery-vehicle-fleet-301233896.html

    R4M0NR4M0N11 күн мурун
  • I have returned to this video because Oshkosh was chosen as the LLV replacement

    GreelyGreely11 күн мурун
  • Oshkosh/Ford got the contract btw

    Ty DryzoTy Dryzo11 күн мурун
  • I've been seeing those same mail vans ever since I was a baby back in 2006. I'm now 14 and I still see the vans lol. I thought they'd replace their mail vans with the European Mercedes vans that do almost every job in Europe.

    Heinrich SchmitzHeinrich Schmitz11 күн мурун